Jordan Peterson was recently in Scandinavia, discussing the role of gender with some prominent public figures, all of whom fully embrace the Feminist Narrative. Here’s why that embracing that feminist narrative will lead to the end of Scandinavia.
At 4 minutes 30 seconds Dr. Peterson says: “We believe there is something pernicious about male competence and activity. It’s a part of the…..I suppose it’s part of the notion that the best way to characterize Western society is as a tyrannical Patriarchy…..which is an appalling doctrine, as far as I am concerned…..It’s not a tyrannical Patriarchy….so…it’s not tyrannical, that’s the first thing. Certainly not, compared to, any other governmental form, which currently exists, and has ever existed. And it’s not essentially Patriarchal, unless you believe, that women haven’t contributed, in immense part, to the construction of what we have now. So…and I also don’t believe that, to the degree that it is Patriarchal, that it’s construction is dependent on the expression of power, arbitrary power on the part of men. I think that happens some times, but only when things go wrong.”
At 15 minutes 50 seconds, the bald gentleman says, “Isn’t the real problem, that quite a lot of men, and young men, are struggling, to deal with the fact that women now, are now more in control of their lives?”
To which Dr. Peterson responds: “I don’t think that’s the problem. I think the problem is that, the idea that, the West is a Patriarchal tyranny, is rapidly translated into the idea that young men who strive forward are to be regarded with suspicion, because they are doing nothing but manifesting the same sort of tyrannical power that has kept women oppressed for the last 2,000 years. And I think that whole narrative is appalling. Right to the core.”….and there you have it. Even men who should know better, like the bald headed author, have bought into the feminist lie.
Men have bought into the feminist lie, that they are horrible people. We must reject that self-hating lie. Men are heroes, not zeroes.
Dr. Peterson continues at 16 minutes 33 seconds, “I don’t think it’s helpful to anyone. Making young men weak. Or, failing to encourage them to be strong….certainly does young men no good, and it doesn’t do the young women any good at all, if they want to find a partner.”
The bald gentleman continues at 16 minutes 40 seconds “Are you saying that men and women have had the same opportunity, all along?”….to which Dr. Peterson replies:
“No, I’m saying that hardly anyone had any opportunity. If you look at the history of the world, things really started to shift, in about 1895. Before 1895, the typical person in the West lived on less than a dollar a day, in today’s money, which is about 2/3 the U.N. cutoff for abject poverty, by today’s standards.”
So, there you have it. Till very recently, everyone in the world was poor. That’s the truth. Men were poor. Women were poor. No one had opportunity. The bald gentleman doesn’t understand history, so he listens and believes feminist lies about history. Feminists look back on history and assume that what we have today, could have been had by anyone in history. This backwards looking revisionism is nonsense that no historian worth their salt believes. Feminists have re-written history, then indoctrinated young people to believe this nonsense.
History has heroes. They are called “men”. The men who created science, were the leading heroes. Men like Tesla. And besides science, the real heroes here are capitalists and businessmen….men who created the modern economy. Working with science, men….and it was mostly men, created the modern world. The ordinary businessman is the real hero, along with the man of science. And the ordinary man worked side by side, with these men of business and men of science, in creating a nice comfortable world, for women.
However, feminists took over the history narrative at university and even grade school long ago, so don’t expect even a word of gratitude, if you are male. Feminism runs on hatred of men and interprets every fact, based on feminist misandry: hatred of men.
At 17 minutes 45 seconds, Dr. Peterson continues, “So what happened through, most of the history of the world, is that men and women struggled mightily together, sometimes at each other’s throats, but mostly cooperatively, to keep the wolf from the door, and the tyrant at bay. Life was very, very, very, very difficult. And the fact that we survived at all meant that fundamentally, we cooperated, despite the fact that we are rife with stupidity, ignorance and malevolence.”
It’s important that we realize the truth of what Dr. Peterson is saying. Feminists especially and women especially, need to understand the truth of what Dr. Peterson is saying.
Why is this important? Because it helps us process the world around us, understand it. We need to understand where we came from, how we got here, in order to speak truthfully and deal with our problems in an honest way, not based on blame, but based on a grounded, realistic view of the past. If not? If not, then we continue with what we have today: Most women and many men, believe men are evil, oppress women, and men feel guilty for the past behavior of men. This leads to men hating themselves and is based on a lie. Self-hatred and lying lead to no good, and feminism is built on men hating themselves, and blaming themselves for the past. Feminism is built on lies and emotional manipulation and we need to see through the feminist lies, so we can cooperate and develop a new and more honest narrative about the past, about what happened between men and women.
Of else what? Or else we continue along the poisonous feminist hate narrative, and we continue to destroy our minds and our future, as males and females, who share our lives together. The feminist hate narrative must stop.
How we view the past impacts how we see reality. It’s best to have a clear, evidence based, realistic view of the past. As an example, why didn’t women have more opportunity in the past? This is one of the basic claims of feminism, that women were oppressed by men in the past, and supposedly that’s why their opportunity was limited.
Annie Loof is a typical feminist who understands the past based on the feminist lens of history.
Annie Loof is a typical feminist who wants girls to have the same opportunity as boys. Nothing wrong with that….but why didn’t women have the same opportunity as men in the past?
As far as women having more opportunity these past decades, Annie Loof likes to claim is was the role of feminists pushing “equality” which gave women more opportunity…..but Dr. Peterson gives a much more accurate answer at 19 minutes, 15 seconds, “The narrative that we are fed now is that, up until 1960, and the enlightened feminists developed their egalitarian doctrines, men had kept women down, and they finally rose. The truth of the matter is, from about 1895 onward, there was a series of technological revolutions, that were extraordinarily powerful, in their impact, that allowed women to step forward, free of many of the burdens which had kept them back in the past. Birth control, being one of them. But only one. Sanitary facilities of all sorts, plumbing had a huge role to play. Tampons had a huge role to play, as did sanitary napkins”
So there you have it, now we are getting a little closer to the truth: plumbers played a major role, in the freeing of women, to live nice lives. If you are a plumber, have you ever heard a word of gratitude, from a feminist? Don’t hold your breath, by the way, feminists don’t do gratitude.
….there you have it, the feminist lens of history is wrong, Annie Loof is wrong, feminist theory of the past is all wrong.
Plumbers are heroes. A couple years ago, feminists organized an event called “Are Men Obsolete?”….I wonder how we should answer them?
“All of these technologies were developed, which enabled women to move forward with less biological impediments.”
….and there you have it: Dr. Peterson unfortunately had to explain to a feminist, to her face, the role of tampons, in the history of the progress of women. Tampons of course, were invented by a man. Women simply didn’t invent much. And no, there was no Tampon Oppression. Men simply took a while, to eventually invent them. It’s amazing he pulled that Tampon History Lesson off, with such dignity….
And the 1960 reference by Dr. Peterson was based on when reliable birth control, in the form of a pill, first entered the market. It was 1960….when Donald Trump was 14 years old. So this stuff has not been around all that long. The things that helped women get jobs out in the world, are fairly recent, very recent inventions. So the feminist tale, that it was men holding women back in history….is just a lie. A bald faced lie.
Before 1960, women could get pregnant at any time, and this severely limited their work place participation. By the way, it was a man who invented birth control.
Feminism is based on the theory that men supposedly “oppressed” women throughout history. People believe this nonsense because they are unfamiliar with the basic facts of history.
My grandfather was born in 1900. The light-bulb had been invented a short time before his birth, reliable electricity had just come in, the automobile was just invented, reliable birth control was a long way off, the airplane was invented in crude form when my grandfather was 3 years old in 1903, most people got around on horse and buggy and men and women died at 50.
Yes, I am just another human being. A bit old, but not too old. And I live with memories of people, from another time. The point is, all this human past really was not very long ago….it is within my living memory, as I sit here typing. In the case of Dr. Peterson, as he said in this presentation, the town he grew up in, was only 50 years old, was basically a frontier town in Northern Canada, so he too, likely remembers people he met when he was young, people who were alive around 1900….so he is connected to the past in a way, that very few people are any more, due to accidents of his birth…..so he has a unique insight, into the past…..that’s part of the reason he sees so quickly, through the feminist nonsense. His sense of reality was set in a much more grounded place and time, cut off from our current ideological disturbing sense of reality….. Of all the places in North America that experienced the “frontier” days, Northern Canada was perhaps the last, as far as agricultural settlement is concerned. Most of agriculture settlement in North America took place in the 1800s. Jordan Peterson was born in the most unlikely of places, a small Northern Canadian agricultural frontier community, and because of that, may have picked up a rural vibe more in place with the 19th Century, than our own. That’s why he says things like, “That horse has already left the barn”…He sounds more like an Edwardian man, stern and solid, sent to warn us of our folly. That’s why the Scandinavians look at him as some sort of strange time traveler. In a sense, he really is.
I was born in a small isolated religious farming community, so in a certain sense, I share that luck with Dr. Peterson. I remember people from the past, who were alive and had memories of a time before most of the technology that runs our world, before that had been invented. A primitive past, lost on most people.
So, it’s an illusion that our pre-technology past was a thing long, long in the past. Some of us are still around, who remember the people of that time.
1895 was not that long ago…..5 years before my grandfather was born….and I remember him well. He was from the Edwardian Era. A strong man, George liked to build things, mechanical things, physical things….barns in particular…. and men like him built the world you see, around you.
Our primitive past was so short a time ago, that I remember quite a few people, from that era. Most people alive today were not alive in that era, are too young to have met anyone of that 1895 era, they were not taught about it, except through the distorted lens of feminist theory. Very few people are old enough to remember the people who were alive in the early 1900s. That is why so many people believe the feminist lies about the past. If you want an antidote to the feminist propaganda you were fed, go look up “Modern Marvels” videos….on how men quite recently created the modern world, and all it’s conveniences. Most people, they have never been taught the truth. Dr. Peterson teaches them a bit of the truth, in this video, to the astonished faces of these “well-educated” people, all of whom have been brainwashed by feminism.
The truth is: For all of human history, men and women struggled together, under severe burden, with no modern world, and very little technology, no easy modern economy to make the faces of Skavlan and his female Annie Loof so well fed. Life was a struggle even a couple generations ago, people stuck to narrowly defined gender roles because that is all that allowed human life to continue under harsh conditions. That was not oppression, it was survival, under brutal conditions for all of history.
Then what happened is some clever men…and it was men who did this….”The Patriarchy”… invented all kinds of science and technology, which allowed women and men to have relatively easy lives, and women to be educated and participate in modern life.
The first thing the feminists did was forget that all life was a struggle for both sexes, forget that men and women worked bravely to keep alive, since time began. Then the feminists turned on the men in blame and anger, feminists misinterpreted history to blame men, that the gender roles were, what they were in the past, some sort of conspiracy, rather than a naturally occurring survival role. Feminists told women that gender roles in the past were, what they were, because men supposedly hated women.
This was a horrible evil lie, but women believed the feminists.
Scandinavia now fully embraces the feminist lie.
Instead of understanding reality, feminists tend to personalize everything, feminists see all of history as a conspiracy of men hating women, and men are being blamed for all human suffering. Feminist history theory is not real, its solipsism…..the idea that all that exists, is your own personal experience. Emotion and personal feelings become paramount over everything, and include and dominate and embrace all reality….by “feels”…We embrace the “feels” at our peril: Feminism is a war on men and every man has a target on his back. Feminism is based on both hatred, and ignorance. Hatred of men, and ignorance of human history.
The truth is, life itself, is to blame for suffering. Without science we all suffer, both men and women suffer. Men were the heroes, inventing science to make women’s lives better, and the first thing the feminists did when men relieved female suffering, was feminists blamed men, for the past suffering of women. To say that this feminist view of history is mentally unstable, is an understatement.
And now what is happening is Scandinavian women have abandoned their role, as bringer of life, which is based on nature and Darwinian evolution, and modern women think they can abandon having children, enter the modern economy, and feminists think all will be well, in the world.
Here’s why that won’t work: Women evolved as mammals who are only able to have children when they are young…between 15 and 30…after that short time, they are mostly infertile. Modern life and feminists tell women to be “educated” during this critical biological window where women can have children, feminists tell women there are too many people in the world anyhow, feminists tell women just to compete for jobs with men and make money and enjoy life and don’t bother with making being a Mother a center of your life, because that is just “Patriarchy”.
Here is the trouble with the feminist’s position: the birth rate in all advanced countries is so low, the population is going extinct. Elon Musk commented on this, in his you-tube video “No More Kids.”
So feminism will lead to genetic extinction, because feminists misinterpret history, blame men, and convince women to abandon their biological role. Feminism is bringing in the death and destruction of Nordic countries, and is supported by Annie Loof. The only thing I can say in Annie Loof’s defense is she is entirely clueless and without a single thought in her head, as to why this is happening. So feminists misunderstand and misinterpret history, tell women to avoid their evolutionary role as mothers, the effect of this is the population is collapsing and Scandinavians will be replaced by Muslims, who are from a culture that actually likes family and likes children. Feminists don’t like children and prefer Nordic Countries to go extinct. Nordic Countries, they will go extinct…just do the math. That is a great tragedy.
And at 11 minutes Dr. Peterson talks about the scientific fact that the biggest difference between men and women, that can be measured, is that men are as a group, more interested in “things” and women as a group are more interested in “people”….the evolutionary reasons for this are pretty obvious: humans are mammals. As in all mammal species, the human female mammal evolved to do most of the care, of young mammals. Women, more than men, evolved for the care of young children. If this were not true, we could not have survived as a species. And feminism tries to enforce the lie that men and women are exactly the same. Of course, gender had to differ in it’s expression, in evolution, or humans would not have survived. If females were not more interested in people than in things, human beings would never have survived evolution.
And of course, males tend to be more interested in “things”….and the evolutionary reasons for this, are obvious: Males played a supporting role in evolution, hunting, protecting and providing food to females and young humans. Freed from the burden of pregnancy, men evolved, more focused on the external world of “things” in order to bring food, back to the human female….in order for humans to survive. So men tend to be more interested in things. To anyone who has been a boy playing a video game, or who has sons, this will come as no surprise. 99% of people who enjoy video games are males. We males enjoy them because they are things, and mimic the hunting behavior and strategy of our male ancestors….we are wired for it.
So feminism sets itself against biology, against the entire weight of human and mammal evolution, and spins a scientific fairy tale about “equality” of men and women, in evolution. If we believe such a fairy tale, we will go extinct. The truth is, human women like all other mammals, they specialized in caring for other mammals, in social consensus, in caring for other women and for caring for children. That is how we survived, as a species. Feminists look back at human history and only give weight to obvious political power, of which men had more than women. They judge all history by a male lens, without considering the broader question of evolution. Judging by common sense and evolution, women contributed every bit as much as men did, to the survival and flourishing of human beings, and to suggest otherwise, as feminists do, by minimizing the biological contribution of women, is ludicrous nonsense.
However, due to feminism indoctrination having completely taken over most of our collective social brain, it’s now considered “sexist” to point out that women have babies. Perhaps this is a “hate fact”?
At 20 minutes 30 seconds, Dr. Peterson talks about the astounding rate that we are overcoming poverty in the world, at a rate unprecedented in human history, but at the same time we are in danger of de-stabilizing our culture in the West. He means Identity Politics, pushed by feminists. Dividing people up in groups will eventually lead to more social chaos. So in other words feminists are busy destroying and de-constructing the very culture that created a modern, tolerant and wealthy culture, which allows women great freedom and economic opportunity. I agree. My view is, the biggest threat to women in the West is: Feminism. Men need to work with women who are not crazy, to de-construct feminism.
I really admire Jordan Peterson. Calmly, rationally, using logic and reason and evidence, he tries to de-construct feminism, in real time, right before someone’s eyes…and does a rather good job of it. Dr. Peterson is trying to tell our culture, not to jump off a cliff. And by “don’t jump of a cliff”…I mean: don’t believe the feminists. No other prominent intellectual seems to have the guts to do this. I’m sure lots of prominent thinkers have caught on by now that feminism is a fraud that is destroying The West, but few bother oppose it. Very strange.
We are such a gynocentric species, we even as men, defer to women, even crazy women, who teach nonsense in public, and we give them money to do so. This is not wise. Feminist nonsense hurts women, we need to stop it.